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#133853 - 10/29/09 02:21 PM HME & UME update
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Hola Everyone-

As I mentioned a few days ago (on that other forum), there has been a little bit of database updating on the MB site. The IBU and SRM for all of the malt extracts (except premium HMEs) were a little out of date, and they all have been adjusted.

The changes represent incremental adjustments at the manufacturing facility over the past 4 years, not a sudden change -- so you're still getting the same stuff you were yesterday (or last week, etc), the numbers on the website are just a bit more accurate.

So you don't have to go surfing across the site, here are the updated numbers for each Extract. Remember, these are contributions per 2.13 gallon batch, not the values you want to input directly into Qbrew.

Malt ABV Color (SRM) IBU
MA UME 2.3 7 NA
PE UME 2.3 3 NA
CB UME 2.3 22 NA
GW UME 2.3 3 NA
SPat's Stout 2.3 33 32
W Wheat 2.3 3 18
OV Lager 2.3 9 23
WC Pale Ale 2.3 3 22
E Nut Brown 2.3 7 22
HCCanadian 2.3 3 22
C USA Blonde 2.3 3 18
Cowboy Lager 2.3 3 18
B Red Ale 2.3 7 12
L Dopplebock 2.3 14 22

For the record, the average IBU changed by about 8 (they've all gone up a bit), and the average color lightened up by about 2 SRM.

The recipes, on average, changed by about the same amounts.

If you want to approximate these changes using qbrew, use the following values:

Malt Gravity Color (°L) AA
SPat Stout 1.036 157 18.1
W. Wheat 1.036 5 10.2
OV Lager 1.036 27 13.1
WCoast Pale 1.036 5 12.4
NBrown Ale 1.036 17 12.4
HCCanadian 1.036 5 12.4
Classic USA 1.036 5 10.2
Cowboy Lager 1.036 5 10.2
B Red Ale 1.036 17 7
LB Bock 1.036 55 12.4
Sticky Wicket 1.036 170 8
Pilothouse 1.036 5 5.1
USA Devil IPA 1.036 14 16.3
W M Witbier 1.036 5 5.1
Grand Boh. P 1.036 5 5.1
BT Porter 1.036 70 5.7
A O Cider 1.036 5 n/a
C Brown UME 1.036 95 n/a
GWheat UME 1.036 5 n/a
MAmber UME 1.036 17 n/a
PExport UME 1.036 5 n/a

This should get you in the ballpark, but may need a little tweaking, as I haven't tested them extensively.

Cheers,

Eric


Edited by SenorBeer (10/29/09 02:22 PM)
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#133859 - 10/29/09 02:30 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: SenorBeer]
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Thanks Eric!
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#133874 - 10/29/09 03:53 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Wilson]
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Very nice, thanks for the update.

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#133882 - 10/29/09 04:26 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: soccertl]
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Thanks for the update, and now I have another excuse not to mow the lawn this weekend. I need to update my QBrew and BeerSmith databases.
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#133889 - 10/29/09 04:56 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: PcolaMike]
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Originally Posted By: PcolaMike
Thanks for the update, and now I have another excuse not to mow the lawn this weekend. I need to update my QBrew and BeerSmith databases.
Well if you are going to do all that work, feel free to post them so the rest of us can mow our lawns. wink
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#133891 - 10/29/09 05:04 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Dr. Dink]
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Good idea, Dr Dink said the post whore.
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#133896 - 10/29/09 05:19 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: mamiata1]
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Thank you Eric!!! You guys rock!!

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#133948 - 10/29/09 07:59 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: newtobrew]
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Seeing how this is the MR BEER FANS forum...I'd think you'd want to post your updates HERE first...instead of 'on that other forum.'

Bad enough the rest of the home-brewing community treats us nano-brewers like red-headed step-children. Why would MrB do the same?
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#133972 - 10/29/09 09:16 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Dr. Dink]
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Originally Posted By: PcolaMike
Thanks for the update, and now I have another excuse not to mow the lawn this weekend. I need to update my QBrew and BeerSmith databases.
Well if you are going to do all that work, feel free to post them so the rest of us can mow our lawns. wink


I will absolutely post them as soon as I'm done. However, it will be after my brew day, of course.
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Carbonating:
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Conditioning:
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Drinking:
- Every bottle of Rahr & Sons Beer I can find
- Ugly Pug
- Iron Thistle
- Buffalo Butt
- Bucking Bock
- Blonde Lager

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#134024 - 10/29/09 11:01 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Herb Meowing]
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Originally Posted By: Herb Meowing
Seeing how this is the MR BEER FANS forum...I'd think you'd want to post your updates HERE first...instead of 'on that other forum.'

Bad enough the rest of the home-brewing community treats us nano-brewers like red-headed step-children. Why would MrB do the same?


Ease up there Herb... That "other" site is Mr. Beer's forum site.
I think they would post there first b4 here. Just saying. smile
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#134025 - 10/29/09 11:03 PM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Herb Meowing]
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Originally Posted By: Herb Meowing
Seeing how this is the MR BEER FANS forum...I'd think you'd want to post your updates HERE first...instead of 'on that other forum.'

Bad enough the rest of the home-brewing community treats us nano-brewers like red-headed step-children. Why would MrB do the same?
Well, that 'other' Forum is the Official Mr Beer Community forum...
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#134185 - 10/30/09 09:44 AM Re: HME & UME update [Re: D Rock]
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Ya, I think Herb got a little confused there.
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#210919 - 01/19/11 06:02 AM Re: HME & UME update [Re: Mr. Bill]
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I thought this was Mr.Beer's forum site.
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#210921 - 01/19/11 06:17 AM Re: HME & UME update [Re: BigHead]
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MrB does have a forum off of their main website. This site was recently purchased by MrB.
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