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#246087 - 11/11/11 07:57 AM Raging Bitch Clone
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Raging Bitch Clone
Style: Belgian Pale Ale OG: 1.081
Type: All Grain FG: 1.019
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 8.12 %
Calories: 264 IBU's: 72.54
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 5.83 Gal
Color: 13.7 SRM Batch Size: 5.00 Gal
Boil Time: 90 minutes

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Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
7.00 lbs 43.75 % Pilsner (2 Row) Bel 60 mins 1.036
1.50 lbs 9.38 % Briess Caramel 60L 60 mins 1.034
7.50 lbs 46.88 % Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel 60 mins 1.037

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
1.00 ozs 43.42 Warrior 60 mins 15.00
1.00 ozs 14.91 Amarillo Gold 20 mins 8.50
0.50 ozs 12.28 Columbus (Tomahawk) 20 mins 14.00
1.00 ozs 1.06 Amarillo Gold 1 mins 8.50
0.50 ozs 0.87 Columbus (Tomahawk) 1 mins 14.00
2.00 ozs Amarillo Gold 10 days 8.50

Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.0 pkg WLP550 Belgian Ale Yeast

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#246088 - 11/11/11 07:57 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Will probably do a 90 minute mash. Mash at 152° for my first try and adjust next time if I need too. Ferment at ambient room temp 65° and see how high it goes and once again adjust next time.

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#246112 - 11/11/11 11:28 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Looks like it'llbe a good beer. How'd you come up with the recipe?
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#246248 - 11/12/11 06:09 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Borrowed from a few other recipes and changed where I thought necessary. I was going to use cultured yeast from a woody creek wit, but decided to go with the wlp550. I may try it next time.

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#249480 - 12/23/11 08:18 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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#249481 - 12/23/11 08:28 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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well? which is which? I'm gonna guess yours is the darker one, on the right.
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#249483 - 12/23/11 08:35 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Did a blind tasting and side by side with a few friends last night. As you can see it came out a little darker. The bitterness and flavor of mine were more intense also. Surprisingly the Raging Bitch had almost no aroma, this was another area were mine was more intense.
I thought with the darker look that mine would be noticeably sweeter, but it really wasn't. Could have been that it was, masked by the extra bitterness and flavor. I actually detected more of the Belgian yeast flavor in the blind tasting of mine then I prviously thought it had. My fermentation stayed below 70° (around 68°), I was hoping more for 72°. I'll try again in the summer when the ambient temps will be more suitable.
The more that we drank them side by side, the more the differences faded. It definately has a evry similar character, just more IPA-like. RB is a little more balanced. Not sure if I'll try to get it closer next time or keep it as-is and just try to get more yeast character/esters. Very tasty and very big hit. I have a friend coming over this week and RB is his favorite beer, we will see what he thinks.

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#249484 - 12/23/11 08:47 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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what was your FG on this?
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#249485 - 12/23/11 08:56 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: cardinalsfan]
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Actual was 1.022...estimated was 1.019. Little warmer and I probably could have hit it. I tried a heating pad but it didn't do much. Never had to worry about warming a fermentation. This was my first Belgian and I do my Hefes when the house is warmer. May invest in a carboy heater down the road.

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#249486 - 12/23/11 08:59 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Missed my target mash temp by two degrees also. (154° instead of 152°). May lower it a bit next time. That may have made a difference.

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#249545 - 12/24/11 05:26 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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The hops will fade a bit in your over time and it might come across a little more Belgiany. Flying Dog probably filters their beers. Do you think the SRM difference might be that yours isn't filtered?

All in all it sounds like you've got yourself a repeatable recipe. It's a good beer to be able to clone too.
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#249546 - 12/24/11 05:27 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: Pudge]
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Oh, congrats on Marshall's win in the bowl game too smile
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#249553 - 12/24/11 10:28 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: Pudge]
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I've wondered about the SRM thing. I think it may be the vigor of my boil. My beers tend to be darker and hoppier then the recipe calculators. Part of the SRM is probably too much crystal though. I didn't think about it but filtering may have some part too.
Flying dog does filter. Then they bottle with a lager yeast I think. May be why I thought mine had more Belgian character in the blind tasting.

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#249554 - 12/24/11 10:43 AM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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I live in Huntington and graduated from Marshall, but grew up near Charleston and have been a WVU fan my whole life. I still root for Marshall (all but one game) and am glad to see them finally winning again. I just hope we can do the same.
Glad to see MU's bball team doing so well too. The eers lost a tough one last night. We better mature fast or my friends will all ride me after the game in Charleston.

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#249556 - 12/24/11 01:07 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Originally Posted By: JSSTR8
I've wondered about the SRM thing. I think it may be the vigor of my boil. My beers tend to be darker and hoppier then the recipe calculators. Part of the SRM is probably too much crystal though. I didn't think about it but filtering may have some part too.
Flying dog does filter. Then they bottle with a lager yeast I think. May be why I thought mine had more Belgian character in the blind tasting.
They definitely bottle their In Heat Wheat with their hefe yeast, but it's probably an exception to the filtering, since they definitely DO filter some (most?) of their beers.
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#249559 - 12/24/11 02:33 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: Jon_TWR]
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They use thier "el diablo" strain to ferment RB. I think it's the same that they use for thier woody creek wit, which could probably be harvested. I was going to try that. You always have to wonder around here though how old bottles are and what conditions they have been kept at. I decided on a fresh strain. I may try a harvested strain later.

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#269003 - 04/18/12 01:08 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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This was the focus of a recent "Can You Brew It?" episode. I haven't gotten to listen yet but here is the recipe. Our numbers are slightly different; thier system is set up for a 15% evaporation rate and they measure IBUs in Rager. Here are thier numbers:
OG 1074
SRM 9.8
IBU 73.2
FG 1013
I kept thier values and you can tweak to your own system which is what I will do later. I used Briess but I don't think they specified a maltster.

Raging Bitch Clone CYBI

Style: Belgian Pale Ale OG: 1.070
Type: All Grain FG: 1.017
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 6.94 %
Calories: 228 IBU's: 46.95
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 6.92 Gal
Color:   10.0 SRM   Batch Size: 6.00 Gal
Boil Time: 90 minutes
 
Fermentation Steps
Name Days / Temp
Primary 14 days @ 68.0°F
 
Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
1.10 lbs 6.21 % Briess Caramel 60L 60 mins 1.034
16.60 lbs 93.79 % Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt 60 mins 1.037
 
Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
1.00 ozs 40.05 Warrior 90 mins 15.00
0.21 ozs 2.99 Amarillo Gold 15 mins 11.50
0.21 ozs 3.90 Columbus (Tomahawk) 15 mins 15.00
0.67 ozs 0.00 Amarillo Gold 0 mins 8.50
0.67 ozs 0.00 Columbus (Tomahawk) 0 mins 14.00
 
Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.00 pkg Belgian Wit Ale White Labs 0400
 
Additions
Amount Name Time Stage
6.00 g Gypsum 15 mins Mash
12.00 g Gypsum 15 mins Boil
 
Mash Profile
Sacch' Rest 60 min @ 153.0°F


Edited by JSSTR8 (04/18/12 04:32 PM)
Edit Reason: Recipe fix

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#269015 - 04/18/12 02:20 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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What was the verdict? Cloned or not?
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#269033 - 04/18/12 04:00 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: Jon_TWR]
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I think they say cloned but I haven't listened yet. I'm going to listen on my way to work.

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#269035 - 04/18/12 04:17 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: JSSTR8]
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Was under the impression they used plain 2-row, from this post:

Can you Brew It recipe for Flying Dog Raging Bitch

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#269036 - 04/18/12 04:34 PM Re: Raging Bitch Clone [Re: dgs]
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Good catch. I corrected it. I modified my original recipe and overlooked that.

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