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#249723 - 12/26/11 08:30 PM STELLA!!!
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Hi!
Does anyone have a clone for Stella by chance? It's the wife's fav. beer and I would love to surprise her after 9 months of pregnancy and not being able to drink with some homebrew that tastes like stella...I understand this may be a tall order tho.
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#249737 - 12/26/11 09:13 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Deucebelow]
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Originally Posted By: Deucebelow
...some homebrew that tastes like stella...I understand this may be a tall order tho.

Well, yes and no.

You'd have to do an extract with full hop boil after getting some extract, hops, and yeast from your LHBS.
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#249745 - 12/26/11 09:45 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: The_Professor]
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Originally Posted By: The_Professor
Originally Posted By: Deucebelow
...some homebrew that tastes like stella...I understand this may be a tall order tho.

Well, yes and no.

You'd have to do an extract with full hop boil after getting some extract, hops, and yeast from your LHBS.
Yes, and you'd have to be able to ferment at lager temperatures, which means you'd have to be able to keep the fermenting beer at a pretty tightly controlled temperature of about 50° for at least 3 weeks, then lager it at cooler temps for a while longer. To be fair, the lagering CAN happen in bottles in your normal fridge, after carbing. But, you would still need good temp control.

Even with all that, I doubt we could get you an exact clone...BUT! We could get you in the ballpark with a beer that YOU made with SWMBO's gift to you! So, if you have a minifridge, or can get one cheap, or a wine fridge (as long as it will fit your LBK), and are willing to experiment with an extract plus hops boil recipe, we can probably get you in the ballpark.

Let us know which of those conditions you can meet, and we can tell you how close we can get you, and give you a recipe to work with...probably. grin
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#249751 - 12/26/11 09:58 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Jon_TWR]
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#249752 - 12/26/11 09:59 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Originally Posted By: Jon_TWR
...ferment at lager temperatures, which means you'd have to be able to keep the fermenting beer at a pretty tightly controlled temperature of about 50° for at least 3 weeks...

I was thinking something like wlp029 German Ale at cool ale temps.
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#249755 - 12/26/11 10:18 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: The_Professor]
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Originally Posted By: The_Professor
Originally Posted By: Jon_TWR
...ferment at lager temperatures, which means you'd have to be able to keep the fermenting beer at a pretty tightly controlled temperature of about 50° for at least 3 weeks...

I was thinking something like wlp029 German Ale at cool ale temps.
Maybe...but even with German Ale or Kölsch or Notty or Cooper or whatever yeast, you need to ferment pretty darn cool...low to mid 60°s at the highest. So if he can do that, he might be able to ferment at 50-55°, using a true lager yeast.

Heck, if he has a mini fridge or even a second beer fridge, he might be able to get by using a lager yeast without a temp controller...if the thermostat at it's warmest setting gets around 45°, quite a few lager yeasts will ferment at that temp...though it'll take a lot of the buggers, and it will take a good while, they'll get the job done.

But, as the Prof mentioned, there are alternatives to true lager yeasts. Let us know what you can do, and we can probably come up with a recipe.

Ok, we can DEFINITELY come up with a recipe...but we can probably come up with one that will get you in the ballpark. wink
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#249794 - 12/27/11 08:42 AM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Heck, if he has a mini fridge or even a second beer fridge, he might be able to get by using a lager yeast without a temp controller...

This just in guys: the wife actually wanted to buy me a mini-fridge so that I stop using all the ice in the freezer to keep my beer cold (haha!). Probably going to take a look today at one.

Standing by to recieve...
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#249798 - 12/27/11 09:21 AM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Deucebelow]
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What about using California Lager or San Fransisco Lager? I know it wouldn't be a step toward an actual "clone", but 60° is much easier to maintain with something like a "swamp cooler" or such then 50°. Just a thought, I have never used the warmer lager yeasts.
I have used SafLager at 60° and had decent results with a Pilsner and I know people here have used Notty at a lower temperatures.

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#249801 - 12/27/11 09:35 AM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: Deucebelow]
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Pilsen DME (maybe steep some carapils), a booster pack, and Saab hops would be close, I would think. Gravity around 1.050, and you'll be good to go.
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#249853 - 12/27/11 12:23 PM Re: STELLA!!! [Re: psuchunk03]
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I believe I have a Stella recipe in a "Clone Brew" recipe book.
I'd have to check.

Clone recipes are decent, but it can be quite difficult to nail down. I made a Harp Clone-ish type recpe.

I prefer to take a "clone" and tweak it to make it my own. So it's more "Stella-inspired" or in my case, "Harp-inspired".

Good luck.
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