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#250815 - 01/03/12 06:48 PM Hatchet's Dark American Lager
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	Never brewed one and not for positive I have ever sampled one so I looked at a few recipes online and decided they knew not what they were doing so I invented my own Ingredients were ordered yesterday, should brew it up in 1-2 weeks. 10 gallons 13.0 lbs Pilsner .50 lbs Munich .35 lbs Roasted Barley .50 lbs Carapils .20 lbs Crystal 120 .35 lbs Pale Chocolate .50 lbs Wheat 2 cups Instant Rice on top of mash .50 oz Saaz @35 .75 oz Saaz @17 1.25 oz Saaz @5 Coopers Ale Yeast rehydrated Gonna be a bigger version but maybe the judges like it? Edited by HatchetJack (01/10/12 09:37 AM) _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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#250820 - 01/03/12 08:00 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: HatchetJack]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12000 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Sounds good, but it might have too much flavor for the style. Not that I know what I'm talking about...I've had the style, but I'm not sure I could tell you anything about it. What will your fermentation temps be, 65-68°, per your usual? Oh, and have you thought about doing 5 gallons with another yeast, just to end up with something a little different? _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#250827 - 01/03/12 09:46 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: Jon_TWR]
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	Temps may be less than that depending on what the weather is like. Currently my brew closet is 60* and the swamp tubs are 57* I do have the option of a small temp controlled space heater and can heat it way up in there if I needed to for something else. I am down to the nitty gritty on yeast. I have a few packs of coopers, a pack of S 33, a pack ea of 04 and 05, and two packs of T 58. I guess I could pitch some T 58 in one batch? or US 05 at those temps. _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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#250837 - 01/04/12 05:31 AM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: HatchetJack]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12000 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Dunno about the coopers yeast at those temps...but I'd guess it'd ferment, just more slowly. But you're the resident coopers expert (I've never even used it!), so I'm betting you'll be fine. S-33 is really interesting at lower temps...it'll start to throw those novicaine phenols that you get in some Belgians, but I can see T-58 being very interesting at those temps, too. But maybe try the US-05, and see how it compares to the coopers? Might get some good lager-like character out of it at those temps. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#251692 - 01/10/12 09:40 AM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: Jon_TWR]
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	It's on, I just mashed in at 157* I need to get the yeast rehydrating and sparge water going. _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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#251706 - 01/10/12 10:30 AM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: HatchetJack]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12000 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	157° is probably awfully high for the style. I think you're going to end up with a damn tasty beer that's something other than a Dark American Lager. Maybe something closer to a Vienna lager? But hopefully it'll stand out enough for the judges to notice it, and hopefully they'll score it well. Good luck! _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#251712 - 01/10/12 10:58 AM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: Jon_TWR]
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	You are dead on correct Jon. It is very risky going with a malty vesrion. I mashed a little high to compensate for the coopers that tends to go low and dry. I will also be topping up in the fermenter and letting it ride on the yeast for about a month so that should drop out some of the flavors. If the first taste test is really out there in space I may enter it as something else but they say "brew big" so time will tell. _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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#251783 - 01/10/12 04:41 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: HatchetJack]
Pudge Brewmeister Registered: 01/19/08 Posts: 6431 Loc: West Virginia	I was going to ask what yeast strain you used. I'm thinking the same thing (mashing a little high) since I still tend to get over attenuation with most brews. I could change up my routine, but that would throw me completely out of whack... not that I'm totally in whack. _________________________ Tap #1: empty Tap #2: #65 Maibock Kegged: #67 Caribou Slobber Fermenting: #68 NB Helles On deck: #69 Girly Comp Vienna Lager On My Mind: Hell, I don't know
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#251785 - 01/10/12 04:47 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: Pudge]
jhans24 Winning an Emmy! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 05/25/10 Posts: 2041 Loc: Castle Rock, CO	This looks like a pretty good idea, a drak lager. I'm interested to hear how it turns out. _________________________ Hans Off My Beer Brewery Don't cry over spilled milk...It could have been beer. #52 Amarillo Wheat...Fermenting #51 Husker Red Ale...Fermenting #50 Simple American Wheat T58...carbonating #49 Amarillo Wheat...Carbing #48 Maternity Leave Lager...Lagering #47 Deep Red Husker...Conditioning #46 Simple American Wheat...Drinking #45 Mein Pilsner...Lagering #43 Ghost Pepper Pilsner...Drinking #35 Belgian Golden Strong AG...Drinking #22 Peachfelwein..Conditioning ready 6/2012 #11 Pearfelwein...Conditioning ready 3/2012 #10 Peachfelwein...Conditioning ready 2/2012 #8 Apfelwein...Conditioning ready 1/2012
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#256273 - 02/10/12 12:33 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: jhans24]
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	I bottled one batch this morning and well uh? it's not near as big as I thought. In fact it's a little lame and not near dark enough to be a D.A.L. The pilsner flavor is washing over everything else it seems. It's gonna be a nice session beer and like Jon says more of a vienna lager like beer, maybe even a blonde. Then again the tartness may be covering up some of the malt flavors, hard to tell sometimes from a flat sample. So I still have the other bucket and thinking about dumping some fruit like cherries or peaches or blueberries in there? _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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#256511 - 02/12/12 01:40 PM Re: Hatchet's Dark American Lager [Re: HatchetJack]
HatchetJack Chillin' The Most ! Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 2501 Loc: Georgia	The wife said blueberry so today I drained a can of oregon blueberries, puried them in a sanitized blender and added them to the bucket fermeter just to wake the yeast up. In a few days I am going to rack the beer onto some frozen blueberries in a secondary. So how much? I am thinking 3-4 lbs. _________________________ ""Wait, my Engrish is poorly. You make gooder translatin?"" I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar when some guy walked in and said "Who owns this car with the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor?"
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