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#252474 - 01/15/12 05:48 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: Lagerpmp]
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...I was thinking about doing a BIAB mash in the evening, and then the next morning completing the boil process. The benefit to me is breaking a 5 hour session into a manageable 2 hour evening session, and then a 3 hour brewing session the next day.... ...Don't we always quote "Mr Beer, My Beer, My Way ? " I've got to agree with Banjoman. If you wanna do it, do it. I did read somewhere to bring the wort up to 180 degrees to pasteurize it... Before letting it sit overnight. But I'm still not sure if I want to try it. That seems reasonable. The thing you want to avoid is anything that would lead to a sour mash when you don't want one. Sanitizing some of the preboil equipment and pasteurising the wort seems reasonable to me.
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#252482 - 01/15/12 07:07 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: Pudge]
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That's what she said...
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Exactly. Lacto lives naturally on the surface of grains, right? Unpasteurized wort will sour. I just don't know how soon. yeah, sounds about right, prof and pudge... they were just talking about sour mashing on a recent episode of the sunday session (either the one with black star co-op or the one with tide brewing/trophy fire, i think)... once the mash (or the wort, in this case) sours there's no going back. but i think sour mashing happens around 115° F. so then the question i have is... if vat pasteurization occurs at 145° F for 30 mins, why would the runnings (which have been holding above 145° F for an hour) not be pasteurized? when the wort drops below 145° F when it's sitting there cooling, that would be when the bugs come to party... but, i have no idea... just playing devil's advocate.
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#252483 - 01/15/12 07:22 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
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The time between mashing in the evening and brewing in the morning is not that long. I think Lagerpmp might be okay with no modifications to his process. However, changing the time between mash and boil is already a modification. So, is anything required to compensate? I think just reasonable steps.
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#252484 - 01/15/12 07:25 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
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That's what she said...
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8 hours or so? might not be a enough time to start to sour, but who knows. i don't know. but, i would think so long as a tight fitting lid is on, it'd be fine. nasties can't climb... just hitch rides on specks of dust.
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#252486 - 01/15/12 07:49 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: psuchunk03]
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As noted in my "sour mash" link above, "Keep the mash in a sealed container and hold it between 95 and 120° F for two to four days."
Of course that's for best results with the wanted bacteria. There is a bit about avoiding unwanted bacteria and it involves killing it with higher temps. 2-4 days is quite a bit less than 8 hours.
EDIT: I am approaching this question backwards. DON'T do what is required to have a sour mash.
Edited by The_Professor (01/15/12 07:50 PM)
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#252495 - 01/15/12 08:21 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: Lagerpmp]
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Yeah, if you pasteurise (to kill stuff) then do a cool down to 70 or so you should be fine (covered) overnight.
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#252499 - 01/15/12 09:10 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: Pudge]
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That's what she said...
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This would be a helluva chance for an experiment. Boil half same day and save the other for a next day boil. +1... one day... heh
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#254563 - 01/29/12 01:01 PM
Re: Split All-Grain Brewing Session
[Re: Pudge]
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same here. be sure to update us.
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