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#252904 - 01/19/12 08:48 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
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I found that issue. It turns out I didn't throw it away. Jon's link provides the AG version. Keep in mind this is a 5 gallon recipe. Somebody with more recent experience with the MrBeer extracts can help sub in MrBeer for the listed extracts. The extract version has...

Extracts...
3.0 lbs of Briess Light dried extract
3.25 lbs of Munich Liquid extract

Steeping grains...

8 oz CaraPils
13 oz Munich malt (20L)
10 oz Chocolate Malt
1 oz Black Malt

Hops... 60 min Target @ whatever amount will give you 21 IBUs.
Wyeast 2124 Bohemian Lager or White Labs WLP830 @ 65 F... which is a weird temp BTW.
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#252920 - 01/19/12 09:23 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Pudge]
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Ok, so as a Mr. Beer-based recipe, how about this:

1 can OVL
1 lb Amber DME (or can mellow amber UME, if you're going straight Mr. Beer)
1 pack booster

Steep 5 oz chocolate malt and 1/2 oz black patent.

Ferment with 1 pack W-34/70 @65°

Should get you in the ballpark, anyway.
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#252922 - 01/19/12 10:14 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Great start Jon. Couple tweaks- Skip the booster. I can't see why you would need it with the extra grains. I still suggest subbing the Black Patent for Carafa III. S-23 yeast as it has a higher temp tolerance.
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#252924 - 01/19/12 10:32 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Dink
Great start Jon. Couple tweaks- Skip the booster. I can't see why you would need it with the extra grains. I still suggest subbing the Black Patent for Carafa III. S-23 yeast as it has a higher temp tolerance.
The booster is just there to give it a bit more gravity without too much extra body, which extract plus steeping can lead to. But yeah, it's probably not needed.

I picked 34/70 only because it's the same strain as the wyeast and white labs reccomended yeast, and the wyeast version performed really well at ale temps in Northern Brewer's recent experiment with it. S-23 is a great choice too.
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#252929 - 01/19/12 10:51 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Did the NB experiment go as high as 65? I could see it in the high 50's but 65 might be pushing viability.
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#252932 - 01/19/12 10:57 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Dink
Did the NB experiment go as high as 65? I could see it in the high 50's but 65 might be pushing viability.
I think they got up to 66-68° on the fermometer on the carboy.

I used 34/70 in the low 60s in an Irish Red with good results, so I can believe it. Some fruitiness, but not a ton, and no detectable fusels or anything like that.
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#253166 - 01/21/12 07:43 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Thanks guys, I think I'll give that OVL recipe a try for my next brew.
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