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#252598 - 01/16/12 04:38 PM New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	I am in serious need of a 1554 fix, anybody have any suggestions for anything close with mr beer ingredients? _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252601 - 01/16/12 04:46 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	I feel like someone has done this...maybe Dr. Dink? Of course, I think his was AG, but still, it could give you some ideas. Is 1554 their Schwarzbier-ish beer? We may be able to come up with something that approximates it, if you can give us some more info on it. Edited by Jon_TWR (01/16/12 04:47 PM) _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#252603 - 01/16/12 04:53 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
psuchunk03 That's what she said... Brewmeister Registered: 01/01/10 Posts: 7001 Loc: St. Louis, MO	hmmm... probably not going to get close enough with just mr. beer ingredients. maybe Mr. Beer's Abbey Dubbel, Dubbel Trouble, Zealous Bock, or some other dark beer from their recipe list. but, if you feel up for steeping some specialty grains, then there's probably some recipes out there that'll get you really close. _________________________ "Only a fool learns from his mistakes; a wise man learns from the mistakes of others." - Otto von Bismarck Fermenting: #25 Mr. Beer Beta Test Bavarian Weissbier Carbing / Conditioning: #24 Keep Calm and Brew On E.S.B. #21 Colonial Ale Drinking: Pipeline is empty On Deck (...eventually): Hefeweizen, Scottish Ale, Kenny's Fat Tire clone "It Has Big Taste"
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#252605 - 01/16/12 05:15 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: psuchunk03]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	No, I did an AG version that came out awesome. Don't believe you will get there strictly with MB ingredients, but maybe a partial mash. You have to use a lager yeast like S23 at ale temps (63-65 degrees) to get the character right. The recipe is here: http://www.mrbeerfans.com/ubbthreads/ubb...html#Post140239, however I have since changed out the black patent with Carafa III and I add carapils to all my recipes for better head retention. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252607 - 01/16/12 05:43 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Awesome, that dr dink walk through looks like what I need, will have to try my first all grain brew soon! _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252659 - 01/17/12 10:21 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Any ideas on what I could substitute for the Special B malt? It is out of stock but I still wanna put the order in so I can have this bad boy brewed for a party we are planning _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252662 - 01/17/12 11:26 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	Maybe try an extra dark crystal malt. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252664 - 01/17/12 11:30 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	special B is pretty specific...its the deep caramel, sweet, raisiny notes that you get in a dubbel. It would be hard to get those flavors without it _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#252669 - 01/17/12 01:29 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: cardinalsfan]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Originally Posted By: cardinalsfan special B is pretty specific...its the deep caramel, sweet, raisiny notes that you get in a dubbel. It would be hard to get those flavors without it Crystal 120 is probably the closest you'll get. It's a decent sub, though it's a bit lighter, and won't give you quite the same flavors, it'll get you close. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#252670 - 01/17/12 02:08 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Sweet, thanks. Also Dink, i know this is a newbie question but hey i am a newbie, but do you use milled or unmilled grains for the BIAB? Thanks _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252671 - 01/17/12 02:23 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	always milled grains. for steeping, BiaB or AG or PM. You won't get anything out of unmilled grains. _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#252677 - 01/17/12 02:30 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: cardinalsfan]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Ok thats what i figured but i would rather sound ignorant than ruin a brew. Any other tips for somebody trying their first BIAB? _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252678 - 01/17/12 02:35 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	see the link below for a good overview of what to do: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/biab-brewing-pics-233289/ pics and a step by step walkthrough. should help quite a bit. _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#252690 - 01/17/12 03:24 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: cardinalsfan]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	FYI the link cardinalsfan posted is for a no sparge BIAB. My process is a double sparge via teabagging the grain bag. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252691 - 01/17/12 03:26 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	Oh and I always use RO water and add my own minerals but that depends on the type of water in your area. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252719 - 01/17/12 06:32 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	If im looking to do a no sparge BIAB, how much water would i start with? Fermenting in Mr. Beer size batches. _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#252721 - 01/17/12 06:49 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Sythreil]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	You start with all your water which is going to depend on grain absorption and boil off rate. A rough estimate is .12 gallons per pound of grain for absorption and 10-12% boil off depending on your equipment. It'll take a few batches to dial it in. I highly recommend purchasing Beersmith as it is a great way to help dial in your equipment. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252723 - 01/17/12 06:53 PM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	Here is a pretty good step by step for no sparge. Just adjust to 2.4 gallons to fit your LBK. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252897 - 01/19/12 06:31 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Pudge Brewmeister Registered: 01/19/08 Posts: 6438 Loc: West Virginia	A couple of days ago I threw away a bunch of old BYO magazines. I 'almost' hung on to one with a few extract and AG New Belgium recipes in there. One was the 1554. If anyone has the issue with the woman CEO from New Belgium on the cover, it'd be a great place to start. _________________________ Tap #1: empty Tap #2: #65 Maibock Kegged: #67 Caribou Slobber Fermenting: #68 NB Helles On deck: #69 Girly Comp Vienna Lager On My Mind: Hell, I don't know
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#252902 - 01/19/12 08:17 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Pudge]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Here's a link to another forum where someone posted the BYO clone recipe. You could convert it to extract pretty easily by subbing extract for the base grains and steeping the rest. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#252904 - 01/19/12 08:48 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
Pudge Brewmeister Registered: 01/19/08 Posts: 6438 Loc: West Virginia	I found that issue. It turns out I didn't throw it away. Jon's link provides the AG version. Keep in mind this is a 5 gallon recipe. Somebody with more recent experience with the MrBeer extracts can help sub in MrBeer for the listed extracts. The extract version has... Extracts... 3.0 lbs of Briess Light dried extract 3.25 lbs of Munich Liquid extract Steeping grains... 8 oz CaraPils 13 oz Munich malt (20L) 10 oz Chocolate Malt 1 oz Black Malt Hops... 60 min Target @ whatever amount will give you 21 IBUs. Wyeast 2124 Bohemian Lager or White Labs WLP830 @ 65 F... which is a weird temp BTW. _________________________ Tap #1: empty Tap #2: #65 Maibock Kegged: #67 Caribou Slobber Fermenting: #68 NB Helles On deck: #69 Girly Comp Vienna Lager On My Mind: Hell, I don't know
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#252920 - 01/19/12 09:23 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Pudge]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Ok, so as a Mr. Beer-based recipe, how about this: 1 can OVL 1 lb Amber DME (or can mellow amber UME, if you're going straight Mr. Beer) 1 pack booster Steep 5 oz chocolate malt and 1/2 oz black patent. Ferment with 1 pack W-34/70 @65° Should get you in the ballpark, anyway. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#252922 - 01/19/12 10:14 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	Great start Jon. Couple tweaks- Skip the booster. I can't see why you would need it with the extra grains. I still suggest subbing the Black Patent for Carafa III. S-23 yeast as it has a higher temp tolerance. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252924 - 01/19/12 10:32 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Originally Posted By: Dr. Dink Great start Jon. Couple tweaks- Skip the booster. I can't see why you would need it with the extra grains. I still suggest subbing the Black Patent for Carafa III. S-23 yeast as it has a higher temp tolerance. The booster is just there to give it a bit more gravity without too much extra body, which extract plus steeping can lead to. But yeah, it's probably not needed. I picked 34/70 only because it's the same strain as the wyeast and white labs reccomended yeast, and the wyeast version performed really well at ale temps in Northern Brewer's recent experiment with it. S-23 is a great choice too. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#252929 - 01/19/12 10:51 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
Dr. Dink ¡¡¡llǝqʍoɔ ǝɹoɯ Brewmeister Registered: 07/20/08 Posts: 9053 Loc: Chandler, AZ	Did the NB experiment go as high as 65? I could see it in the high 50's but 65 might be pushing viability. _________________________ Spread The Word www.RealBeerActivist.com Drinking: #25 American Amber Ale AG (CO:9/28/10)(CA:9/14/10)(F:8/29/10) #24 American Amber AG (CO:6/26/10)(CA:6/12/10)(F:5/22/10) #23 Black Ale Remix AG (CO:5/3/10)(CA:4/19/10)(F:4/4/10) #22 Cherry Wheat (CO:4/2/10)(CA:4/18/10)(F:3/28/10) #21 Kölsch AG (CO:3/21/10)(CA:3/7/10)(F:2/21/10) #20 X-Treme X-port (CO:2/21/10)(CA:2/6/10)(F:1/24/10) #19 Black Ale AG (CO:12/21/09)(CA:12/7/09)(F:11/20/09) #18 Hard Lemonade (CO:12/209)(CA:11/18/09)(F:10/26/09) #17 Spiced Apple Ale (CO:10/12/09)(CA:9/29/09)(F:9/7/09) #16 ZZZ Milk Stout "FIX" Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/8/09) #15 ZZZ Milk Stout Mix (CO:6/9/09)(CA:5/28/09)(F:5/3/09) #14 Blueberry Wheat (CO: 4/29/09)(CA:4/15/09)(F:3/28/09) #13 Clönestritzer (CO: 4/27/09)(CA:4/11/09)(F: 3/22/09) #12 The Dubliner (CO:4/4/09)(CA:3/16/09)(F:2/22/09) #11 German Doppelbock (CO:3/9/09)(CA:2/16/09)(F:1/26/09) #10 German Alt Dunkel (CO:3/8/09)(CA:2/9/09)(F:1/19/09) #9 Irish Stout (CO:2/2/09)(CA:1/19/09)(F:1/4/09) #8 Dutch Apple Ale (CO:2/9/09)(CA:1/26/08)(F:1/4/09) #7 Honey American Blonde (CO:12/2/08)(CA:11/14/08)(F:10/27/08) #6 Sticky Wicket Oatmeal Stout (CO:11/13/08)(CA:10/27/08) (F:10/13/08) #5 Pumpkin Lager (CO:10/27/08)(CA:10/13/08)(F:9/21/08) #4 Good Witch Red (CO:9/15/08)(CA: 9/2/08) (F:8/17/08) #3 Otto's Oktoberfest (CO:9/15/08)(CA:9/2/08)(F:8/11/08) #2 WCPA w/Honey (CO:8/25/08)(CA:8/11/2008)(F:7/27/08) #1 WCPA (CO:8/9/2008)(CA:7/26/2008)(F:7/12/08)
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#252932 - 01/19/12 10:57 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Dr. Dink]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12027 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Originally Posted By: Dr. Dink Did the NB experiment go as high as 65? I could see it in the high 50's but 65 might be pushing viability. I think they got up to 66-68° on the fermometer on the carboy. I used 34/70 in the low 60s in an Irish Red with good results, so I can believe it. Some fruitiness, but not a ton, and no detectable fusels or anything like that. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#253166 - 01/21/12 07:43 AM Re: New Belgium 1554-ish fix from Mr. Beer ingredients [Re: Jon_TWR]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Thanks guys, I think I'll give that OVL recipe a try for my next brew. _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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