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#252831 - 01/18/12 06:30 PM Does adding honey increase fermentation time?
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I currently have a pale ale at 2 weeks fermentation. I added 1 cup of honey at 7 days. The brew is very clear with no visible sedimen. My question is, do I need to wait another week to bottle due to the honey addition or am I good to go?

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#252833 - 01/18/12 06:33 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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i would wait another two weeks, so the yeast has time to finish munching on the sugars in the honey you added.
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#252840 - 01/18/12 06:47 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: psuchunk03]
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Wait, NO visible sediment? As in you can't see any trub on the bottom of the fermentor at all?
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#252854 - 01/18/12 07:42 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Oh no, there is trub at the bottom, just nothing still floating about and really good clarity.
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#252870 - 01/18/12 09:06 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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Ah, ok.

You might be ok to bottle, but waiting another week won't hurt anything. What have your fermenting temps been?
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#252879 - 01/18/12 09:39 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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Originally Posted By: Sythreil
I currently have a pale ale at 2 weeks fermentation. I added 1 cup of honey at 7 days. The brew is very clear with no visible sedimen. My question is, do I need to wait another week to bottle due to the honey addition or am I good to go?

Why add the honey at 7 days?
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#252890 - 01/18/12 11:21 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: The_Professor]
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Originally Posted By: The_Professor
Originally Posted By: Sythreil
I currently have a pale ale at 2 weeks fermentation. I added 1 cup of honey at 7 days. The brew is very clear with no visible sedimen. My question is, do I need to wait another week to bottle due to the honey addition or am I good to go?

Why add the honey at 7 days?

I have done that before. In theory the yeast will eat simple sugars before they will eat more complex ones. If they eat the simpler sugars first, they may become lazy and not finish up the complex ones. That being said, I have tried it boh ways and haven't noticed any differences. Not sure if that was his reason, but it is a theory I've heard.

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#252915 - 01/19/12 09:10 AM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: JSSTR8]
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Fermenting tips have been between 68 and 70.
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#252917 - 01/19/12 09:17 AM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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Yeah if you added it at 7 days I would give it another week just to be safe, it won't harm your beer and could will just further ferment out anything that's been leftover.
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#252950 - 01/19/12 02:16 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: JSSTR8]
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Originally Posted By: JSSTR8
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Originally Posted By: Sythreil
I currently have a pale ale at 2 weeks fermentation. I added 1 cup of honey at 7 days. The brew is very clear with no visible sedimen. My question is, do I need to wait another week to bottle due to the honey addition or am I good to go?

Why add the honey at 7 days?

I have done that before. In theory the yeast will eat simple sugars before they will eat more complex ones. If they eat the simpler sugars first, they may become lazy and not finish up the complex ones. That being said, I have tried it boh ways and haven't noticed any differences. Not sure if that was his reason, but it is a theory I've heard.


I've also read that you don't get any hone flavor if you put it in early but that you do if you put it in later. I've never done a test on it, so I don't know if it's true.

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#252951 - 01/19/12 03:12 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: bpgreen]
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I had heard both of these things as well, was looking for the bonus ABV and honey flavor. This was my first brew with honey so I am also kinda experimenting.
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#252971 - 01/19/12 05:44 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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Gave it a taste and it tasted like a flat, warm, pale ale. Didn't get much of the honey flavor from it but it was a small sample. Debating on whether or not to bottle it now or let it mellow for another week to see if it develops further. Waiting is the hardest part of the brew game!
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#253519 - 01/23/12 06:10 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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Got it bottled, used honey for priming as well. One of the calculators said about 1.8 tsp for a 20oz bottle. The bottles are already really hard (a day after bottling). Wondering if i should be worried about the potential of bottle bombs and any way to make sure i dont have any 'splosions?
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#253523 - 01/23/12 06:44 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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If they're already really hard, get 'em in the fridge asap.
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#253594 - 01/24/12 10:27 AM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Ok they are in the fridge. Should I leave them in there for the duration of the carbing or will that leave me with an under-carbed beer? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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#253597 - 01/24/12 10:54 AM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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there is no way they got properly carbed in one day and no, they will not carb at fridge temps. The bottles are supposed to get hard, you just don't want them deforming. Generally my bottles get hard within a couple of days of bottling but I let them ride for at least 2 weeks.

if it were me, i would pull them out and put them in a cooler and let them go at least a week, checking on them daily. If you start to see any deformation, fridge them ASAP, otherwise, lte them ride until you want to fridge them.

why did you want to carb with honey? it doesnt have a standard sugar level, some honey can be different than others so you may have put in way too much sugar. next time just use something with a known fermentation percentage like table or corn sugar.
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#253609 - 01/24/12 01:01 PM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: cardinalsfan]
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Did honey cause I had some really good honey and I was curious lol, yeah I know they can't be fully carved yet, just hoping to avoid bombs and still get carbonation in the process lol
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#254530 - 01/29/12 08:28 AM Re: Does adding honey increase fermentation time? [Re: Sythreil]
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I cracked the first one last night. It had a nice head that didn't fade too fast. The honey flavor came out stronger than I thought, but it wasn't overpowering; it actually did a lot to balance out the hoppiness. The extra honey definitely upped the ABV as well, as this beer had more I a kick than its called to. Generally it turned out very well, I'm hoping time blends the hops and sweetness into something more mellow.
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