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#253168 - 01/21/12 08:27 AM
Octoberfest Vienna Lager ?
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Registered: 12/26/11
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My next brew is going to be the Octoberfest Vienna Lager.
Being that it says Lager, is it a true Lager and do I follow the procedures for Lagering?
It's a mix of booster, one can HME and a packet of yeast.
Or can I just follow the 2-2-2 rule?
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#253174 - 01/21/12 10:34 AM
Re: Octoberfest Vienna Lager ?
[Re: JSSTR8]
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That's what she said...
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Registered: 01/01/10
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def agree to add some malt to the recipe... if you can. i used amber DME, but any LME or DME would be great. i would think the booster would thin it out too much and it wouldn't taste like a real oktoberfest.
and, also agree about using US-05, a cal ale yeast, or danstar nottingham at cooler temperatures (ambient temps in the upper 50's/lower 60's) to "simulate" a lager. if you're tap water is coming out cool, like mine is, you can use that cold tap water in a swamp cooler (or even just add ice to cool it to around 59° F) to keep ambient temps cool. and, it might take three weeks to ferment, though since yeast works a little slower at cooler temps.
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#253197 - 01/21/12 12:23 PM
Re: Octoberfest Vienna Lager ?
[Re: psuchunk03]
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I'm the white rabbit.
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Registered: 12/17/09
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Yup, if you can get a pound of DME or some LME, and add it to the recipe, you can get something much more like a true Oktoberfest or Vienna Lager out of that can.
The only kind of DME I'd suggest staying away from would be dark, unless you WANT it to be a darker beer.
Amber, extra light or even wheat DME would go great, though.
And, if you do want a boost in ABV with little flavor impact (though it may increase the conditioning time needed), you could certainly add the booster.
Now, if you do add any additional fermentables (or even if you don't), you should definitely use more than just the one pack of Mr. Beer yeast. Nothing wrong with the Mr. Beer yeast, but you should always try to use AT LEAST 2-3 packs for a single batch, even just HME plus booster.
In addition to the yeasts Chunk listed, Fermentis Saflager W-34/70 works quite well up into the low-mid 60s, while retaining a lot of lager characteristics. Certainly worth giving a shot if you can keep temps in the mid to low 60s!
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#253279 - 01/22/12 05:16 AM
Re: Octoberfest Vienna Lager ?
[Re: Jon_TWR]
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Just as I thought. I wanted to check with the experts first.
I still haven't (officially) even made my first beer yet. 1st batch of WCPA went into the fridge yesterday.
All I had was what came with the kit. You guys are still talking WAY over my head with a lot of this stuff. Which is good, that's how I will learn.
Thanks for the advice.
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