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#253875 - 01/25/12 08:31 PM anybody ever use this stuff?
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When I made my mead with the wife's uncle he used THIS as his sanitizer. any one have any experence with this? My main interest is I use star san now but everytime I mix it up, our water sucks so bad, it is cloudy with in a couple hours. I have had it not last thru a brew day. Wife's uncle has used exclusively for years and says it lasts fine even with our water.
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#253878 - 01/25/12 08:35 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: BEERKEEPER]
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I always buy distilled water an mix a gallon at a time of star San. It lasts quite a while.

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#253879 - 01/25/12 08:37 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: bpgreen]
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I know, I have been force to do that too, I was just wondering about what other options were out there.
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#253883 - 01/25/12 08:43 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: BEERKEEPER]
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Haven't used it myself.

I watched a couple wine making videos on You Tube where they were used.
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#253885 - 01/25/12 08:49 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: The_Professor]
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if you add another couple drops of Star San to the cloudy solution, it might clear up... you're basically "recharging" the pH of the solution. but, as long as the pH of the solution stays below 3 (IIRC), then it's ok, even if it's cloudy.

but, yeah... distilled water.
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#253889 - 01/25/12 08:58 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: psuchunk03]
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Isn't that basically a cambden tablet? which is used to kill wild yeast, or to stop fermentation to create a sweet mead...? Never heard of it as a sanitizer...
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#253892 - 01/25/12 09:12 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: Stinkfist]
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Originally Posted By: Stinkfist
Isn't that basically a cambden tablet? which is used to kill wild yeast, or to stop fermentation to create a sweet mead...? Never heard of it as a sanitizer...

Sounds like it may not be a real sanitizer. One of the videos I saw is below (check 3:35) and he mentions sodium metabisulfite to kill wild yeast.

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#253894 - 01/25/12 09:16 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: The_Professor]
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the sites I have found use 2oz per gallon as a sanitizer, and like 1/10 of an oz per gallon for brewing additive
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#253900 - 01/25/12 09:52 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: BEERKEEPER]
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What about iodophor? Hard water shouldn't cause any problems with it.

My water in Pittsburgh was so hard that I had to use distilled, or Starsan would turn INSTANTLY cloudy. I mean, before I even used it.

However, it was still great brewing water.
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#253902 - 01/25/12 10:02 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: Jon_TWR]
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thanks jon, that was the purpose of this, I was just fishing for other things we use/ of can use for this.
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#253913 - 01/25/12 10:46 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: BEERKEEPER]
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Originally Posted By: BEERKEEPER
thanks jon, that was the purpose of this, I was just fishing for other things we use/ of can use for this.
No problem Ryan. Iodophor is a pretty popular sanitizer, and has been around for a long time. Instead of not fearing the foam, like with StarSan, don't fear the stain (on plastics...it'll leave a little bit of a yellowish-brown discoloration).
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#253914 - 01/25/12 10:48 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: Jon_TWR]
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Originally Posted By: Jon_TWR
...Iodophor is a pretty popular sanitizer, and has been around for a long time. Instead of not fearing the foam, like with StarSan, don't fear the stain (on plastics...it'll leave a little bit of a yellowish-brown discoloration).

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Iodophor need to be rinsed?
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#253915 - 01/25/12 10:57 PM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: The_Professor]
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Originally Posted By: The_Professor
Originally Posted By: Jon_TWR
...Iodophor is a pretty popular sanitizer, and has been around for a long time. Instead of not fearing the foam, like with StarSan, don't fear the stain (on plastics...it'll leave a little bit of a yellowish-brown discoloration).

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Iodophor need to be rinsed?
Nope, like starsan, in the proper dillution, it's a no-rinse sanitizer. But it does have a higher contact time...1-2 minutes vs the 30 seconds for starsan.
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#253929 - 01/26/12 12:06 AM Re: anybody ever use this stuff? [Re: BEERKEEPER]
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Originally Posted By: BEERKEEPER
I know, I have been force to do that too, I was just wondering about what other options were out there.


Bleach is another option. If interested:
"March 29, 2007 - Sanitizing with Bleach and Star San
Charlie Talley from Five Star Chemicals tells us best practices in using household bleach and Star San in sanitizing equipment."
http://www.basicbrewing.com/index.php?page=basic-brewing-radio-2007

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