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#254909 - 01/31/12 07:10 PM Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB?
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Just wondering if anybody has done a no sparge BIAB for the 2.14 gallon size Mr. Beer fermenter? I'm wondering how much water to boil. Looking to do my first BIAB and wanna get it as close to right as possible to help things go smoothly. Thanks -Sythreil _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#254911 - 01/31/12 07:14 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Sythreil]
psuchunk03 That's what she said... Brewmeister Registered: 01/01/10 Posts: 7002 Loc: St. Louis, MO	work backwards... you want about 2.5 gallons of wort when all is said and done (so you can use that other .4ish gallons to contain the hop/break material), so you should have about 3.5 gallons at preboil. so, you'll need to calculate the grain absorption factor... it's easy... (lbs of grain in grain bill)X.2)... then add that number to the preboil volume of 3.5 and you'll see how much water you'll need to start with. confused? lol _________________________ "Only a fool learns from his mistakes; a wise man learns from the mistakes of others." - Otto von Bismarck Fermenting: #25 Mr. Beer Beta Test Bavarian Weissbier Carbing / Conditioning: #24 Keep Calm and Brew On E.S.B. #21 Colonial Ale Drinking: Pipeline is empty On Deck (...eventually): Hefeweizen, Scottish Ale, Kenny's Fat Tire clone "It Has Big Taste"
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#254912 - 01/31/12 07:17 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: psuchunk03]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	on my system for my last recipe, I started with 4 gal of water and had 2.25 into the fermenter, using all the wort in the kettle. 6.6 # of grain on that recipe. Start with 4 gallons and go from there. _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#254914 - 01/31/12 07:29 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: cardinalsfan]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Ok my overall grain bill comes out to 4.74lbs, so according to the method you gave, i come up with 4.448 gallons preboil? _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#254916 - 01/31/12 07:40 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Sythreil]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	that sounds like a bit too much to me, just based on what i've used. if you go with that amount, make sure you can fit that much grain and water. 4.25 gal of water and 6.6# of grain was all I could fit in a 5 gal pot. google "can I mash it" for a calculator _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#254931 - 01/31/12 08:50 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: cardinalsfan]
natural320 ~~BOTM~~ Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 09/25/09 Posts: 2295 Loc: Warminster, PA	Yep! 4.25 gallons will work out smashing ;-) I have been using this method for quite some time, and it works out perfectly for the type of grain bill you are using.. You can easily adjust a little bit either direction in future brews, but it is a solid starting point. _________________________ Little Bastards Brewing Project - you can google me! drinking: Dunkle, LWW, Smicky's, hoppy wheat, Stupid Easy Cider conditioning: Keystone Common fermenting: Festbier V2
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#254955 - 02/01/12 06:00 AM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: psuchunk03]
Banjoman Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 01/20/08 Posts: 1763 Loc: Great Beer State	What is your water to grain ratio ? I have used 2 quarts of water to one pound of grain and come out around 4.33 gallons pre-boil. _________________________ Paddle Faster....I Hear Banjo Music !!! I don't always talk to Ohio State graduates... But when I do, I ask for Large Fries ! Stay Thirsty my friends !
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#255009 - 02/01/12 12:54 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Banjoman]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	That sounds about right, I'm going for a dark ale or stout so I am hoping to get that thick mouthfeel, so I am leaning towards less water. That 4.33 sounds like what I'm looking for _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#255010 - 02/01/12 12:57 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Sythreil]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Any suggestions for getting the thicker mouthfeel? I was thinking of either getting it through malts or possibly oatmeal? _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#255013 - 02/01/12 01:04 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Sythreil]
Jon_TWR I'm the white rabbit. Brewmeister Dubbel Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 12030 Loc: Brooklyn, NY	Originally Posted By: Sythreil Any suggestions for getting the thicker mouthfeel? I was thinking of either getting it through malts or possibly oatmeal? Mash temp is the key to getting more mouthfeel. Other ingredients can help, but for a fuller-bodied beer, you want to mash at a higher temperature. Something like 156-160°. _________________________ CCBBA Yeast Trials Favorite recipes: Drunken Druid (Mr. Beer),JPA (All Grain)...there are more that go here, I will add them later. Wines and Ciders: House Red Apfelwein
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#255020 - 02/01/12 02:06 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Jon_TWR]
cardinalsfan Dinosaur Basement Brewing Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 03/15/11 Posts: 3008 Loc: OKC	as far as I know, water levels won't affect mouthfeel. People use anywhere from 1qt/lb to 7 or 8 gallons for a full 5 gallon batch. Mash temps are key. _________________________ DINOSAUR BASEMENT BREWING -------------------------------------- Fermenting: Nothing at the moment Carbing: World Series Tripel, Pale/Citra SMaSH Conditioning: Drinking: Dilophosaurus Doppelbock, Allosaurus Amarillo Pale Ale, Sinraptor Sorachi Ace AIPA, Caseosaurus Cascade APA (AG), Helioceratops Hefe, Witty Monk Modified, ESB (AG), SWMBO Nut Brown Ale Up Next: Vienna/Simcoe SMaSH, DNR Clone R.I.P: Stegosaurus Cream Ale (Awesome), T. Rex Red Ale (Great after conditioning)
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#255029 - 02/01/12 03:01 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: cardinalsfan]
Sythreil Brewsmith Active Member Registered: 01/14/12 Posts: 51 Loc: Chattanooga, TN	Ah I see, well that sure makes it easier on me, I was expecting to have to order more grain on change up my recipe lol. Thanks! _________________________ <<<Marvale Brewhouse>>> Fermenting #8: Skrull Imperial Stout-faux bourbon barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout Carbing Drinking #6: Stark Industries Prototype Propultion Amalgamation #147- Baltic porter AG-freaking amazing!! Will definitely brew again! Gone #7: Dark Alevengers- dark lager (second runnings of #6)-good, definitely drinkable, especially for being a free beer. #5: Onslaught Stout-oatmeal raisin stout--awesome right away, ok after a week or so, letting the rest age to see if it comes back around. #1: Deadpale-Pale ale--not really my style #2: Giant Green Rage Monster-Green ale--work on recipe #3: Snikt-black and tan(my take on one)--great! #4: Captain Rogers Super Soldier Syrum Stout--dumped, soured Up Next GaP(grocery and produce) Pumpkin Porter Pumpkin Porter/amber parti gyle
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#255031 - 02/01/12 03:08 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Sythreil]
JSSTR8 Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 01/02/09 Posts: 1278 Loc: Huntington, WV, United States	Malto Dextrin or Melanoidin malt should give you some extra mouthfeel. Dextrin malt or CaraPils should also work.
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#255095 - 02/01/12 07:23 PM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: JSSTR8]
Banjoman Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 01/20/08 Posts: 1763 Loc: Great Beer State	BIAB calculators http://beerreviewdude.com/biab-calculator/ http://www.gregstiffler.com/biabcalc/ http://up.jamesnweber.com/_brew/biabcalcs.html _________________________ Paddle Faster....I Hear Banjo Music !!! I don't always talk to Ohio State graduates... But when I do, I ask for Large Fries ! Stay Thirsty my friends !
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#255198 - 02/02/12 09:48 AM Re: Mr. Beer sized no sparge BIAB? [Re: Jon_TWR]
natural320 ~~BOTM~~ Ultimate Mr. Beer Fan Registered: 09/25/09 Posts: 2295 Loc: Warminster, PA	if you were asking me Banjo, I don't use a ratio. I did once or twice, but did not find the outcome any different than simply going up to 4.25 gal for most average brews. with a smaller or larger grain bill, I would scale up or down a bit (and always err on the high side...it is a lot easier to extend the boil IMO!) and like Jon suggested (he ain't BOTM for nuthin'!) just mash in the high range to get that fuller body. a lot of "real" breweries use this technique as opposed to adding carapils or other dextrins. I wanna say Red Hook and Lagunitas (from a highly respected souce: BN Sunday Session haha!), but I am not 100% certain if I am remembering that correctly. the technique yes, the brewery(ies) maybe _________________________ Little Bastards Brewing Project - you can google me! drinking: Dunkle, LWW, Smicky's, hoppy wheat, Stupid Easy Cider conditioning: Keystone Common fermenting: Festbier V2
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