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#257365 - 02/17/12 09:51 PM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: cardinalsfan]
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I really must say, that this has been a very informative thread. I will keep you all posted on what batch I decide to do. I'm sure i wil be around with more questions, but in the mean time, thanks!!
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#257800 - 02/20/12 08:12 PM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: Deucebelow]
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Just did an Irish Red Ale, scaled from "Brewing Classic Styles" and purchased ingredients at BrewMasters Warehouse in Marietta. I used their Brewbuilder program to get the numbers right, but OG came in low. Boiled all wort in one pot, did the ice water bath then split into two kegs topping off with water Mr. Beer style to top of Quart.

I think on next batch, I'll take original recipe ingredients x .87 (the book assumes 5.5 gallons transferred to fermenter and I'll be transferring about 4.8 which is about 87 %).
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#9 Czech Pilsner - Gone
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#11 Four Buck Canuck - Gone
#12 Schizelweizen -Gone
#13 Authentic Prohibition - Gone
#14 High Road Prohibition Ale - Gone
#15 Irish Stout - Drinking
#16 Honey Wheat - Gone
#17 Nut Brown Ale - Drinking
#18 Munton's Amber Light - Gone
#19 Balloon Red Wine - gone
#20 Amber Ale - Drinking
#21 Zatarains Root Beer - Gone
#22 Ginger Ale - gone
#23 Prince Ludwig Lager - Drinking
#24 Canadian Draft - conditioning
#25 White Wine - drinking
#26 Oktoberfest Vienna - Carbing
#27 Irish Red Ale - carbonating
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#257851 - 02/21/12 01:52 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: RatBikeRandy]
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I've made that one too! Really good.

I've never done an ice water bath-- just cold tap water in the sink.

Give us tasting notes!
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93 Irish Stout (5 gallon LHBS extract kit)
92 Dry Stout (de Malto Seca) Brewing Classic Styles p. 165
91 Oatmeal Stout (McQuakers) BCS p. 169
90 Southern English Brown (Big Ben Brown) Brown Ale: CBS p. 159
89 Southern English Brown (Treacle Treat) Brown Ale: CBS p. 160
88 Mild English Brown BCS, p. 145
87 Southern English Brown BCS, p. 148
86 1750s Brown Brown Ale: CBS p. 154
85 Strong Bitter BCS p. 122
84 Pale Porter CBS Porter, p. 104
83 Special Bitter BCS, p. 119
82 Irish Red Northern Brewers kit
81 Irish Red BCS, p. 129
80 Brown Porter BCS, p. 155
79 Standard Bitter BCS, p. 117
78 Brown; 77 Irish Stout; 76 Dry Stout
75 Brown; 74 Basic Stout; 73 Irish Stout; 72 Porter
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66 Wormwood 5; 63 Heather Mild
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53 Wormwood Rauch; 52 Wormwood Peat; 51 Heather Rauch
50 Heather Peat; 49 Wormwood Gruit; 48 Dornbusch's Gruitbier
47 St. Johns Wort & Yarrow
46 Five Herb Gruit: Yarrow, Woodruff, Mugwort, Sweet Gale & Labrador Tea
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43 Woodruff, Mugwort, & Bog Myrtle
42 Yarrow & St. Johns Wort; 41 Mugwort & Sweet Gale
40 Sweet Gale; 39 Mugwort; 38 Heather Gruit
37 Yarrow & Bog Myrtle

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#257853 - 02/21/12 02:18 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: RatBikeRandy]
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Originally Posted By: RatBikeRandy
Just did an Irish Red Ale, scaled from "Brewing Classic Styles" ... I think on next batch, I'll take original recipe ingredients x .87 (the book assumes 5.5 gallons transferred to fermenter and I'll be transferring about 4.8 which is about 87%).

I've made a few 5 gallon batches for two MB kegs (like last week) and never did any .87 reductions-- just make the 5 gal recipe and pour it into the 2 kegs ... that has worked fine so far smile

Just adjust the cooling water to fill to the Liter mark-- you'll add 1/.87 or 15% less. Or something.

Maybe I'm not following you-- I had this image of you throwing away .13 of the ingredients-- I'm sure that's not what you meant-- in any case, your wort could be 15% (1/.87) stronger than book-- more O.G. is better .... smile

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#257854 - 02/21/12 02:28 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: vp09]
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OK I think I have it. You are saying that you are going to make the 5 gallon Brewing Classic Styles (or whatever) recipe and reduce the ingredients by 15%? To compensate for the presumptive smaller fermenting capacity of two MB kegs?

I say NO Way! Go for the original recipe specs and pour it into your clear brown Mr Beer kegs ... cool wort in cold tap water to less than 90F first-- add cold tap water or refrigerated water if needed to bring wort to 75F before pitching yeast-- and how do you reduce .25 oz of pale choc by 15% ?? Just askin' smile

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#258905 - 02/26/12 07:18 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: vp09]
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I used the BrewBuilder calculator online which allows changes to volume etc. I think it will be good, but my OG was definitely low. Has anyone else had this issue?
I think it had me cutting the amount of extract too much to achieve target OG.
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#4 Cherry Wheat - Gone
#5 High Country Canadian - Gone
#6 Free Range Cowboy - Gone
#7 Piggly Wiggly Prohibition Ale - choking down
#8 Oktoberfest (no honey this time) - Gone
#9 Czech Pilsner - Gone
#10 Cinco de Maya Cerveza - Gone
#11 Four Buck Canuck - Gone
#12 Schizelweizen -Gone
#13 Authentic Prohibition - Gone
#14 High Road Prohibition Ale - Gone
#15 Irish Stout - Drinking
#16 Honey Wheat - Gone
#17 Nut Brown Ale - Drinking
#18 Munton's Amber Light - Gone
#19 Balloon Red Wine - gone
#20 Amber Ale - Drinking
#21 Zatarains Root Beer - Gone
#22 Ginger Ale - gone
#23 Prince Ludwig Lager - Drinking
#24 Canadian Draft - conditioning
#25 White Wine - drinking
#26 Oktoberfest Vienna - Carbing
#27 Irish Red Ale - carbonating
#28 Premium American lager - fermenting

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#258906 - 02/26/12 07:52 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: RatBikeRandy]
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That is weird.

I think the recipes in that book are for 6 gallon post boil volumes and assumes you'll get 5.5 gallons of clear wort into the fermenter. To miss low at 5.5 means you're missing even lower than than you estimated a few posts back.

Do you have a scale? Weigh the ingredients of your next brew from them just to double check their amounts. I'd have to guess either an error on their part in building your brew or a water volume error on your end. I don't know what else it could be.
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#258917 - 02/26/12 10:20 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: Pudge]
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I do have a scale and weighed everything according to the Brewbuilder. I had it calculated at 4.8 gallons for the two kegs combined.

Brew calculator gave me:
1.054 OG
1.014 FG
16 IBU (shade less than style but used 1 oz hops instead of 1.1 oz)
14.6 SRM
5.24 ABV

6 lbs, 6 oz - Briess Pilsen LME
4 oz - Briess caramel 40
4 oz - Briess Roasted Barley
4 oz - crystal 120
1 oz - Kent Goldings @ 60 mins
1/4 teasp. Irish Moss @ 10 mins
1 pack - Nottingham yeast

My reading was 1.033 OG. Maybe I need to check the hydrometer?
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#1 WCPA - Gone
#2 Oktoberfest Vienna (1/2 booster, 1/2 honey)- Gone
#3 Englishman's Nut Brown Ale (w/mellow amber) -Gone
#4 Cherry Wheat - Gone
#5 High Country Canadian - Gone
#6 Free Range Cowboy - Gone
#7 Piggly Wiggly Prohibition Ale - choking down
#8 Oktoberfest (no honey this time) - Gone
#9 Czech Pilsner - Gone
#10 Cinco de Maya Cerveza - Gone
#11 Four Buck Canuck - Gone
#12 Schizelweizen -Gone
#13 Authentic Prohibition - Gone
#14 High Road Prohibition Ale - Gone
#15 Irish Stout - Drinking
#16 Honey Wheat - Gone
#17 Nut Brown Ale - Drinking
#18 Munton's Amber Light - Gone
#19 Balloon Red Wine - gone
#20 Amber Ale - Drinking
#21 Zatarains Root Beer - Gone
#22 Ginger Ale - gone
#23 Prince Ludwig Lager - Drinking
#24 Canadian Draft - conditioning
#25 White Wine - drinking
#26 Oktoberfest Vienna - Carbing
#27 Irish Red Ale - carbonating
#28 Premium American lager - fermenting

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#258918 - 02/26/12 10:29 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: RatBikeRandy]
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Definitely a good idea to calibrate your hydrometer, yeah.
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#258924 - 02/26/12 11:00 AM Re: For those who split 5 gal batches [Re: Jacylrin]
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Not familiar with that particular software, but does it have an option to steep the grains rather then mash. With no base grains in the pot you are getting flavors but not extra sugars. That may account for the difference. Just a thought.

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