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#132655 - 10/23/09 10:22 AM "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract"
Gunny G Sr. Mr Beer Fan Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 219	"Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" By: Steve Bader Here's the only guy I've found who comes right out in print and says this--and he's referring to extract, DME/LME; hopped/unhopped, etc. http://www.baderbrewing.com/store/ ... 396&page=1
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#132656 - 10/23/09 10:41 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Gunny G]
Chris Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 04/13/09 Posts: 694 Loc: Manassas, VA	With all of my Mr Beer batches this is what I've done...added the HME and UME after flame out, and the results were pretty good. I'm brewing a batch up tonight of an Austin Homebrew kit and wondering if I should do the same sort of thing Edited by Chris (10/23/09 10:41 AM) _________________________ Blind Mouse Brewery Fermenting #35 - Imperial Red Ale Carbing #34 - Centennial American Wheat Drinking #26 - Octoberfest (2 cans) #27 - Pilothouse Pilsener #28 - Utah 51 Amber Ale #30 - Dubbel #31 - Amberillo (Amarillo Amber Ale) #32 - Summit Centennial DIPA #33 - Centennial Amber Ale
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#132659 - 10/23/09 10:55 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Chris]
soccertl Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 07/04/09 Posts: 1169 Loc: Tucson, Arizona	Interesting, sounds like the title should be "Boil The Hops, Not ALL The Malt Extract" since they say to put in 1 cup of it. In any case, not sure I am going to change what I do yet. I may try it at some point to see what happens.
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#132660 - 10/23/09 10:56 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Chris]
mamiata1 Somewhat jerky moderator but not the BOTM Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 01/29/09 Posts: 7640 Loc: SE Michigan	That's interesting but I don't know much about this Master Bader guy. Some folks here say to boil the LME from the LHBS for an hour to remove any DMS. What's Bader say about that? _________________________ Drank: A bunch of stuff that won't fit here anymore Drank: A bunch of beer Wilson and Matty guilted me into removing Drinking: Edme Red Lager (Screw the style guidelines!) Drinking: Octoberfest (I might dump it) Drinking: Father's Day Cream Ale w/honey Drinking: Octoberfest II (Bohemian Bronze) Really good Drinking: Witty Monk Drinking: Hilltown No Honey Wheat Drank: Aussie Ale III Drinking: Aussie Ale IV Drinking: High Country Draft Cold conditioning: Drunken Druid (Mammy's Pale Ale) Carbonating: IPA (Imitation Pale Ale) Dry Hopped Carbonating: September Quencher (Pale Ale) Carbonating: WCPA 2010 Fermenter #1: Mammy's Canadian II Fermenter #2: WCPA 2011
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#132661 - 10/23/09 10:57 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: soccertl]
Gunny G Sr. Mr Beer Fan Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 219	So simple even aka might get it--and w/o all the dos, don'ts, disclaimers and qualifiers, etc. As always, KISS!
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#132667 - 10/23/09 11:13 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Gunny G]
The_Professor Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 05/18/08 Posts: 2373 Loc: California, USA	I liked the advice to add no more than 2 lbs of unhopped extract per gallon of water better. Can I first wort hop an extract batch by "steeping" some hops in sparge temp water for 20-30 minutes then adding to a 60 minute boil? _________________________ 1-47) - Gone 48) - 4 Hop (CCCP) Lager - 5 gallon partial - carbing 49) - Roggenbier - 5 gallon all grain - drinking 50) - American Wheat - gone 51) - Hopburst APA - gone (reviews so far, FANTASTIC w/!) 52) - Dampfbier - carbing 53) - Mr. Beer Fall Seasonal Double American Brown Ale - fermenting On Deck: Roggen Witbier
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#132670 - 10/23/09 11:26 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: The_Professor]
Chris Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 04/13/09 Posts: 694 Loc: Manassas, VA	Originally Posted By: The_Professor I liked the advice to add no more than 2 lbs of unhopped extract per gallon of water better. That's the advice I had been going off of for my recent non-Mr. Beer recipes...its turned out decently, but I'm curious if this way is more efficient in terms of using the hops _________________________ Blind Mouse Brewery Fermenting #35 - Imperial Red Ale Carbing #34 - Centennial American Wheat Drinking #26 - Octoberfest (2 cans) #27 - Pilothouse Pilsener #28 - Utah 51 Amber Ale #30 - Dubbel #31 - Amberillo (Amarillo Amber Ale) #32 - Summit Centennial DIPA #33 - Centennial Amber Ale
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#132673 - 10/23/09 11:45 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Chris]
Gunny G Sr. Mr Beer Fan Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 219	There are many online who advocate 100% boiling of extract (hopped/unhopped, dme/lme, etc.)and anything else ranging to no boiling at all, and and all kinds of bs in-between, together with a whole sh!tpot of ifs, ands, buts, disclaimers and qualifiers, etc. I find Mr. Bader's info on this to be a simple, straight forward set of instructions for the beginner as well as others who have been influenced by much misinformation online. Good for beginners, and others as well who might want to rethink some of the bum scoop we have digested along the way. Good place to regroup, and experiment/unlearn some of the things we assumed to be so.
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#132786 - 10/24/09 09:55 AM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Gunny G]
Gunny G Sr. Mr Beer Fan Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 219	Homebrew PingList @ FR... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2369812/posts
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#132839 - 10/24/09 07:41 PM Re: "Boil The Hops, Not The Malt Extract" [Re: Gunny G]
Herb Meowing Keep On Brewin' Ultimate Mr Beer Fan Registered: 03/14/09 Posts: 4688 Loc: 37°N / 77°W	Some malt is needed when boiling bittering and/or flavoring hops. I've been using 1/2 the recipe's DME at the get'go. Most of a recipe's malt extract...dry and/or liquid...can and should be added 'late' in the boil (@10-15") to reduce twangification and SRM darkening. Extract(s) added toward the boil's end will have more than plenty-o-time to pasteurize. Boiling hopped-LME in not recommended. _________________________ Homebrewing will get you through times of no money... Better than money will get you through times of no homebrewing.
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